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AskDT: There are a few data science boot camps. Do you hire from them?
13 points by hoboon 3659 days ago | 17 comments
What are your experiences in hiring people from these programs? Do you feel like they are worth it?


3 points by rohit 3656 days ago | link

I think you're better off working on some projects by yourself. Boot camps can give you an impressive list of projects, but it's also highly likely that you were spoon-fed to a certain extent working on them. After all, if you're thinking about working as a data scientist, you better like working with data enough to motivate yourself.

Look up online courses, do well on a few Kaggle competitions, learn new technologies, and play with datasets available online (I highly recommend looking at enigma.io).

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1 point by hoboon 3655 days ago | link

I totally understand what you mean.

I wish I was that smart and focused but I just need help and accountability.

I will look at the Kaggle competition material; thank you!

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3 points by achompas 3656 days ago | link

I can say with certainty that we have not yet hired from boot camps at Knewton. That's only one data point, though.

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2 points by kk 3656 days ago | link

Companies I can confirm that have hired individuals directly from a data science training program: Tesla Motors, Facebook, Square, Yammer, Tagged, Change.org, Twitter, Airbnb, Netflix, Groupon, YouTube, Apple, Adobe, Palantir

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2 points by hoboon 3655 days ago | link

neat!

Do small startups hire grads from insight/zipfian?

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2 points by ryo 3655 days ago | link

Absolutely! Here at Zipfian Academy, a little more than 1/3 of our hiring partners are smaller data-driven startups. In general, they're working on really interesting problems and look for full-stack data scientists with strong coding skills. If you'd like to hear more, feel free to drop me a line at 'ryan' at 'zipfianacademy.com'.

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2 points by jack 3659 days ago | link

Note: I am not directly responsible for hiring people at the company I work at.

Perhaps I am jealous of not having these opportunities (or being able to afford them) where I am from but I feel like hiring a bootcamper can be extremely dangerous, I am not sure if I would hire someone into a blue chip company who has only done a bootcamp. Maybe I am selling the individuals too short but I feel like a solid foundation in CS (data structures, algos, programming languages, distributed systems) and maths (stats, numerical optimization, real analysis) is the most trustable foundation for a young analytics professional. When combined with good work experience (or commerce breadth) you have the perfect entry level employee.

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2 points by hoboon 3659 days ago | link

Thanks for the reply.

Personally, I am a SW engineer by trade and have some math background, but no training in ML or data science.

If I finish one of the more grueling bootcamps then perhaps I can be a more attractive candidate?

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3 points by paulsef 3658 days ago | link

If you're interested in Zipfian definitely check them out. I'm a former student and can assure you that they really know their stuff. I got hired directly out of the program and will easily repay the cost of tuition within this year. If you want some more info on it let me know!

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1 point by hoboon 3655 days ago | link

Thanks for the feed back. I've heard good things about zipfian.

What kind of background do you have? I'm a SWE and have some math background. Do you think smaller startups will hire people from zipfian?

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2 points by jack 3659 days ago | link

Yup you absolutely can.

What type of data science are you interested in? I ask because people have such skewed opinions of what 'data science' is.

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1 point by hoboon 3655 days ago | link

I'd be interested in developing algorithms and general systems building. More than systems engineering for stuff like this but still enough that I can get a system together including algorithms for people.

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2 points by philrenaud 3659 days ago | link

What are some of the more prominent ones?

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1 point by hoboon 3659 days ago | link

I found this: http://yet-another-data-blog.blogspot.com/2014/04/data-scien...

Not many in the bay area (or on earth for that matter) but it seems like an area heating up.

Notably, in Palo Alto there is Insight. They are starting a data engineering program this summer. There's Zipfian academy in SF full time and assembly in the city as well.

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4 points by ryo 3658 days ago | link

Co-founder & CEO of Zipfian Academy here. I'm happy to answer any questions you might have about the program. We're also hosting a virtual info session tonight if you're interested in learning more: http://www.zipfianacademy.com/events/2014/4/14/zipfian-acade...

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2 points by rsm 3657 days ago | link

I so want to do Zipfian but I can't afford relocating to San Fran at the moment. It would be great if you offered an online version of the bootcamp, there aren't any online data science bootcamps at this point (if you don't count MOOCS) and I think that a lot of people are in the same boat as me.

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3 points by ryo 3655 days ago | link

We're working on some exciting new projects that will make some of the curriculum available online. Getting the format right for online learning is a challenge -- we've found that nothing beats the in-person experience with access to instructors and like-minded learners to provide help with troubleshooting, teach good habits, and help overcome stumbling blocks.

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